Thunder Bay – Shelter Village. Its Not Cheap

Councillors give nod to Kam River Heritage Park for temporary village

Subject to ratification by city council at its meeting next week, the City of Thunder Bay will move forward with establishing a temporary shelter village for unhoused individuals at the Kam River Heritage Park.

Meeting in committee of the whole, council approved the plan in an 8 to 5 vote Monday night, after discussing the proposal for over four hours.

The riverfront park is one of four locations council has considered at various points since last October, with the others being Lakehead Region Conservation Authority property in the intercity area, a site on Miles Street East, and a location on Cumberland Street North.

Council most recently asked administration to compare the LRCA and heritage park sites, after reversing an earlier decision to place the shelter village adjacent to the Salvation Army shelter on Cumberland Street.

In recommending the heritage park, the city’s commissioner of growth, Kerri Marshall, said administration had assessed each site against defined selection criteria as well as operational, strategic and financial considerations.

She said the fact it is owned by the city enables work to begin immediately without the need for external approvals.

“It is located within close proximity to a range of essential support services, and is already an existing encampment area,” Marshall said. “Establishing the village in this location provides an opportunity to improve safety, enhance cleanliness, and reduce public health and social disorder risks associated with unmanaged encampments.”

The city’s plan to support homeless individuals also includes establishing three approved encampment sites.

It’s set to spend $5.5 million to construct an 80-unit “tiny home” village, with the province contributing $2.8 million of that, and has targeted operating costs for the first year at $1.5 million.

Some councillors questioned whether that will be adequate, but other sources of funding, including the federal government, may be available.

Councillors also raised safety concerns related to the proximity of the river and railway tracks, while others said the city needs to implement the plan without further delay in order to support the increasing number of people living in unsafe and unhealthy environments.

City manager John Collin also reiterated that provincial funding will be at risk if council doesn’t proceed with the village plan.

The city still has to make arrangements with a local organization interested in operating the facility, which will be comprised of heated, powered and lockable units, along with shared washrooms, on-site health care, daily meals, and links to multiple support services.

Speaking in support of the project, councillor Andrew Foulds described the decision as one of the most difficult council has ever had to make during his career as a municipal politician.

“I want to recognize that many members of council are asking good questions and struggling with this decision…But I don’t think there’s any doubt that every member of this council, whether you support this or not, cares deeply about the safety of our citizens.”

He said there are dozens, if not hundreds, of people living in Thunder Bay in conditions one wouldn’t expect to find even in a third-world country.

“It’s atrocious. I would venture to say it’s shameful,” Foulds said. “What had to be cleaned up, I don’t know if there are words to describe it,” he said, in reference to the debris he recently observed at a former encampment site near McVicar Creek.

“if we do nothing, and it is status quo, we’re going to continue to have that chaos, and it’s going to be all over the city.”

Councillors Mark Bentz and Rajni Agarwal, who voted against the Kam River site, both cited the nearby water hazard, among other concerns.

“The challenge we have with this campsite is security outside the compound, which is where the river is. It’s a huge embankment where we had a ship docked, and the ship sunk. So it’s deep and not easy to get out of…How are we going to keep people safe?” asked Agarwal.

Collin replied “You can drown in six inches of water like you can drown in 12 feet of water. The depth is not really the consequential issue. It’s clearly delineating it, making people understand the risks, and putting in some prevention measures.”

Bentz nonetheless cautioned “Remember, we’ll be inviting people that may suffer from substance abuse because it’s a low-barrier site. We’re inviting them to our riverfront, with an elevated dock, with five sets of railway tracks separating it from downtown, and yet we’re supposed to say we’re providing a safe site for them.”

In an impassioned presentation to council, local resident Jason Veltri stressed that providing safe living conditions for people is “not just about secure perimeters; it’s about creating places where people feel respected, where they feel seen, and where they are given a chance to stabilize, heal and rebuild.”

Veltri called on the community  to understand that those “living with homelessness addiction or trauma are not the danger. They are the ones at most risk. The real danger is leaving people with no place to go. The danger is allowing this crisis to deepen while we debate.”

Besides ratification by council next week, numerous steps are still required before construction of the village can begin, but it’s expected to be operational prior to the onset of winter.

The facility is projected to remain in use for five years. – tbnewswatch.com

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…It’s set to spend $5.5 million to construct an 80-unit “tiny home” village, with the province contributing $2.8 million of that, and has targeted operating costs for the first year at $1.5 million….

As I have always said, everything is about money.  Our high salaried residents of City Hall sudden concern over the wellbeing of the city’s unhoused/addicts/mentally-ill population seems to have increased as soon as there was funding available from senior levels of government.

I believe, as do most of you, that had there not been funding made available to DSSAB, there would be no shelter village. Its all about the money.

80 units at $5.5 million…sooo that is $68.750 for each unit that is expected to be used for 5 years. Then what?  The units are sold?

City budgeting $1.5 million per year to operate the 80 unit village.  $1.5 million divided by 80….$18,750 per unit. Divide that by 12….$1,562 a month.  Seriously?

Who gets that $1,562 per month?  Is there going to be a call for tenders or is it going to be given to a one of the members of the city’s Unhoused/Addicts/Mentally-ill  Industrial Complex.

And the working poor get nothing. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Zero. Zippo. Naught. Nix.  Sweet FA.  Pays to not work.  Really…why bother working?  This reminds me of the push for Universal Basic Income.

I am sure that High Salaried Residents of City Hall are expecting funding to cover a good portion of the annual operational cost as well.

And when its all done, you know, should hell freeze over, the city will have a fully serviced area ripe for development. At little cost to itself.

...That has to be worked out with a third-party operator the city has yet to sign an agreement with, said Willianen….

This has never been mentioned. How do you choose?  Are you looking at the people most likely to get out before the five years are up or the lifers, the ones who will never ever leave no matter what.  I think that a lottery is the way to go.   Maybe have a contest. Maybe get the people to vote on their favourite unhoused/addict/mentally-ill contestant.

Will there be a punishment for anyone who misbehaves? Violence, fire, theft, destruction of shelter?

Will the DSSAB or City Admin be able to evict anyone?   I’m going to to go out on a limb and say no.  Not even if a village resident murders another.  There is no way anyone can get evicted.  It would be inhumane. And as we are seeing, there is no limit, either morally or financially, that the  High Salaried Residents of City Hall are not prepared to go.  There is no limit to the amount of our and my money that they are willing to throw at this problem.. No amount is to great.

My idea of a solution?  Fund all of the unhoused/addicts/mentally-ill industrial complex projects  through charities. 100% funded through direct public support. Not via taxes.

Make donations to registered charities 100% tax deductible.  The way it used to be.  People can then support charities and projects directly with their own cash. Companies cand the same. Corporations and millionaires can do the same.

What this does it gets government out of the funding picture.  Governments will not be picking winners and losers.  People will speak with their donations.

I know, local politicians will no longer have those photo ops with them handing a giant cheque to a group or organization.

This is exactly how things were before governments changed the rules.  100% tax deductible charity donations.  It worked then. It would work now.

Just remember this come the next municipal election.